Introduced in 1944, this is the all-around cartridge for the big game hunter. I have done it in person at the range. This is 4th year hunting with my ultralight, it has been spot on evertime it’s been called upon. I have a 300 Wby, and a friend of mine has a 300 Ultramag while yet another friend has a 300 Win mag. Remington is going to have to put better barrels on their guns to compete with Wby thus raising the cost. The 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum is a beast; it is the .300 Weatherby Magnum—requiring a magnum-length action—necked down to hold 6.5mm bullets, replete with the double radius shoulder that Weatherby is famous for. I can stand the recoil of the weatherby without a brake, but the ultra was just a bit too much. It has to be because of the high pressures generated by the ammunition. Reading ballistic tables, the .300 Weatherby with 200 grain bullets may be the best elk CARTRIDGE though I think a .340 Weatherby with a 225 is as good or better. Maybe true, but he's only wanting a 700 yard gun. Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. Might help shape yer decision. Awesome gun in everyway. This is the Ammoguide drawing. So on to the head to head comparison. Both are handloaded by me. It began with the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum, a full-length blown-out .404 Jeffery case with a rebated rim, which is fully capable of equaling the velocities of the .30-378 Weatherby. Remington launched this beast in 1999, it's first 30-caliber. I think that this shows the potential of the gun. Modernists scoff at the double radius shoulder, but it feeds more smoothly than today's fat, angular magnums. There aren't any Ultramag guarantees like that. This monster has 20% more powder capacity than the.300 Win. Indeed within 300 yards an '06 will generally work just as well as the two big boys. I can't agree with the 300 Ultra-Mag reccomendation over the 300 Wby at all. One problenm with the Remington UM is a lack of bullet choice. So what it comes down to to me is.300 Win Mag vs 300 Weatherby. 29 Posts . vs. 300 WSM. Remington produced the 300 Win Mag in 1999 and this is also the first cartridge of the 30-caliber It may not display this or other websites correctly. Mag. Classic in 300Wth. Joined May 21, 2008 Messages 6,194 Location South of Canada and North of Wyoming. Barrel life is short, and being aggressively overbore, the RUM can be finicky about accuracy. The 300 wby is based on the full length 300 H&H case which requires a longer action. Bullet Cost - Why is this so much a wild hair? The last I looked the only shells you could get were Remington brand (a 150, and 2x 180s Core Lokt and now a Boat tail (match). You say no more then 700 yards, but if a big one steps out at 800 I am willing to bet you're trigger finger is going to be itching for him. My best 3 shot group with the 300 Wby at 100 yards is 1/2" and is always under 1 ". Compare to the Weatherby’s 2825 fps and the … The rifle will be a JP Sauer, Weatherby, or Sako. Guys what do you think about Sendero against Sako in 300RUM? 22-243AI vs 22 CHeetah vs 22 something else. I would also go with the Weatherby. It may not display this or other websites correctly. .300 Remington Ultra Mag The.300 Remington Ultra Mag is loosely based on a blown out and necked down.404 Jeffery case with a 30 degree shoulder. I completely disagree with the .300 weatherby being better than the .300 RUM. vs. 300 Ultra Mag. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The case isbased off a .404 Jeffery Nitro Express by narrowing down the neck to fit a .308 (7.8mm) bullet. the Wby doesn't suffer accuracy problems because of extra headspace. This case is … As a rule of thumb, when it comes to hunting, muzzle energy is what many hunters … Find 300 Weatherby Mag Ammo for sale, in-stock and ready to ship at Ammo Freedom. I'm smart enough to know that 1 observation doesn't mean its an average. To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. You can purchase .300 win mag ammunition off the shelf at any sporting goods store in the lower 48 and you'll be able to find it at just about any general store in Alaska. I can completely outshoot the Ultramag with the Wby from a benchrest at 100 yds. Yes the cost of the rifle and shells is high but worth it if you want the best in performance. First Prev 2 of 3 Go to page. Mag., 350 Rem. They say it's SAAMI verified. I am just as happy with a 165-180 in my '06 or a 210-225 in my .338. We all go out to shoot at a range north of Byers Colorado which goes all the way out to 1000 yards. Thread starter bvolcic; Start date Oct 30, 2010; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . .300 Weatherby ammunition is prohibitively expensive and .300 ultra mag ammunition is not widely available. But the .300 is close enough to the 7mm to be considered similar. It remains the most popular Weatherby cartridge and the flagship of the … Read ballistics comparisons on the two rounds but was wondering which one you guys prefer and why? However, the Wby rifles are of higher quality than the Remingtons. You are using an out of date browser. Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.85" Width: 0.534" Average FPS: 3066 Average Energy: 3610 Average Gr: 173 Recoil: 2.64 Power Rank: 5.3 of 20 The .300 Remington Ultra Magnum was designed in 1999 by Remington Arms Company. My .308 Norma with a 180-200 may be the … Instead it's the WSM, Ackley and the WBY mags. If yer working off a budget, start doing some research on costs including the rifles themselves as well as cost to reload. Not with the Weatherby. Had my choice when I ordered a custom rifle a few years back and debated for a long time the choice. Only thing I did was clean the barrel real good and give it a trigger job down to 2lbs and thats that. ...If you bed the action , the first 2 inches after the locking lug and put a 2inch bed 2 inches down from the for end...The rifle will shoot 3/8ths at a 100, 2 shots...Factory 150gr. Peter Pan I love my remington,but if I had the cash I'd consider sako.Lately remington has been on a few peoples Dung list. AA is the only one that calls out the angle in any of the Weatherby prints, and they don't do it with the .300. and 13% more capacity than the.300 Weatherby Mag. The 300 Weatherby Magnum had the flattest trajectory, longest range and the greatest killing power of any 300 magnum on the market until the 30-378 Weatherby Magnum came along. The head space issue has been debated forever. I bought the gun used from an older guy who gave up varminting. Roy Weatherby already had experience with other custom cartridges such as his own .270 Weatherby Magnum when he created the .300 Weatherby. You must log in or register to reply here. However, the.30-378 Weatherby Magnum is considered the most overbore production sporting cartridge available and is not considered as efficient as the.300 RUM cartridge. Not even a muzzle brake. 300 Ultra Mag or 300 Win Mag. Like most of his other magnum cartridges, this is based on a blown-out .300 H&H Magnum case, using the signature Weatherby double-radius shoulder. Both are celebrated by hunters worldwide, but which one of these classic .30-caliber cartridges will come out on top Another good reason to choose the WSM is the barrel will last a lot longer than the WBY or RUM and so will the brass. Virtually all Weatherby cases are in the 45 degree range. I also own a .222 Rem in an older 700 ADL. I'm currently looking at either the Remington 700 SPS, .300 Ultra Mag; or the Weatherby Vanguard, .300 Weatherby Magnum. Great knockdown power! JavaScript is disabled. JavaScript is disabled. In my opinion though, the RUM is on top of the Weatherby. With handloads or genuine Weatherby ammo, it runs neck and neck with the .300 Ultra Mag, but burns less powder and produces less recoil. I have 5 boxes of Nosler 300 RUM brass that I'm pretty impressed with. The case drawing I am looking at on Ammoguide shows the WBY with a 20* shoulder. Its very forgiving with bullet type, and barrel temperature. The 9 lug Wby bolt is the strongest in the industry. When doing load work for my … Hey I have a keeper,Rem 700 sporter weight in 300 RUM.180 gr nosler gold partion in front of 97.5 H1000 gives me 3367FPS and 7/8" 5 shot 100 yds .Vias muzzel Brake,sounds like atom bomb.BBL very hot after just three rnds.But who cares!!! Not meant to start a ****ing match here, but your knocking the RUM, I'm knocking the Weatherby. Plus, it kicks like a demoniac mule, and … There may be better rounds for the UM coming out that will tighten up the race, But right now the Wby is years ahead of the UM. I should probably shoot the Ultramag at longer ranges but if it can't shoot 1-1/2" at 100 yards its not gonna do it at 300 yds. Maybe quality control problems ? Do a search for Remington quality problems. I would go with the 300 RUM, I personally have one and I love it. Bullet Cost - Why is this so much a wild hair? With this kind of performance from all the Remingtons I've seen and shot, I dont see any reason why to spend all that extra money on a Weatherby. I have a Remington LSS .300 RUM and it will outshoot your weatherby as you described. I'm looking for some opinions from guys who are already shooting these rigs, as to which one might be preferred. The most I was use to was my .300 Win Mag. The .30/06 vs. the .300 Winchester Magnum. Mag., 8mm Rem. That was about my upper limit. Where the .300 RUM earns its salt is with ultra-heavy for caliber bullets: 200 grains and up. I puchased a Rem. The Weatherby was first introduced in 1944, and the .300 Winchester Magnum was introduced in 1963. and 416 Rem. IME, the neck is the vertical portion. From what I’ve read seems like a lot of you out there have 300 Win Mags. Therefore I don't hunt them. Go. The Weatherby is 100 to 200 fps faster than the Win Mag depending on load and bullet selection but the newer Win Mag is certainly adequate for longer shots. 300 Weatherby Mag. As stated the RUM has the most versatility. Historically, Weatherby claimed that this is the most powerful .30 caliber magnum rifle commercially available, but the recently introduced .300 RUM and Weatherby’s own .30-378 Weatherby Magnum are now more powerful. Factory loaded.30-378 Weatherby Magnum ammunition has a 150–200 ft/s (46–61 m/s) velocity advantage over the.300 RUM cartridge with any given bullet weight. Brass has a higher specific gravity or is denser than water. 300 Win Mag Vs 300 Weatherby Vs 300 Ultra Mag And 300 Win Mag Vs 6 5 Creedmoor 1000 Yards BEST BUY AND CHEAP PRICES HERE. … For example, factory loads dispense super-aerodynamic 210 grain projectiles at around 2920 fps. Mag. Just like with any gun you have to find a bullet that shoots well on your gun. you have a bad set of drawings. Of the mark a little, but! This beast provides more initial velocity than any of the previous cartridges discussed, and has proven to be an outstanding elk cartridge. I read a lot on accuracy about the cartridge and I could not believe the groups people were getting with such a hard kicking gun. The UM bullets are harder to find than the Wby to date. Mag., leaving the all-American 30-calibers to Winchester, Weatherby, H&H, Norma and even Dakota. I'm 18, 6'2 and 140 lbs. Competitive shooters have also praised its accuracy and performance, using it to … One could say, the .300 Weatherby was 50 years ahead of its time as it has only been recently that suitable optics and … As far as accuracy goes for all these cartridges, I'd pick a rimless version. I was all ready to buy a new rifle in 300 win mag, but after reading up on the issue of the inherent accuracy flaws from a belted magnum, I'm wondering if the 300 RUM might have better (or easier) potential to be … Its very consistent. My best 3 shot group with the 300 Wby at 100 yards is 1/2" and is always under 1 ". I have seen a lot of guns with a 2" difference between a cold barrel shot and the next 2 bullets. The RUM neck is close to the WBY in length but has a sharper 30* shoulder. The Ultra Mag is faster and also has a 26" tube. So based on my experience, with the right powder a WSM can push the heavier bullets quite well. Mag., 7mm Rem. It does have a slightly longer neck by about .023, but the WSM's sharper shoulder and sharper neck/shoulder junction (vs the radius WBY junction) I would think more than make up for the length difference. If the Ultra mag was a great round we'd see it in use at the 1000 yard meets. Bottom line is finding a good load that will shoot. I dont shoot groups at close range as it defeats my purpose of a LR gun. My father, Ol’ Grumpy Pants, absolutely loves this cartridge, and he has taken it around the world for all sorts of game. Thread starter ART_SKYD; Start date May 28, 2019; 1; 2; 3; Next. I use to be a Ruger fan personally, untill I got my hands on my 2 Remingtons. The .300 Win Mag might be inferior in performance and power to the .300 Weatherby Magnum and Remington Ultra Magnum, but it is still certainly capable of bringing down elk, moose, bear, and bighorn sheep. 1; 2; 3; Next. The 7mm wby is based on the 270 wby (Roy Weaterby's first cartridge)which is a shortened and blown out 300 H&H magnum with weatherby's signiture double radius shoulder. In … Main thing to me was recoil. If you go from the centerline of the radius, you will see a neck closer to .38". However, the 7mm wby mag is not a necked down 300 wby mag. So a .300 Weatherby Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 4070 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .338 Lapua Magnum round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 4830 pounds over the same one foot distance. The bottom line is that Wby has a guarantee on accuracy which tells you what you need to know. The best group I ever shot at 300 yards was 1 1/2". 300 Ultra Mag vs 300 Win Mag The.300 Ultra Mag can fire the same weight bullet approximately 200-300fps faster than the.300 Win Mag. Plus, it's got more panache than … Shoots … My 7 mm Weatherby Ultra Lite likes 175 gr. Thanks for … That’s .300 Win mag power with less powder and less recoil! Prev. Now the problem with the comparison was that I shoot Noslers and the UM was shooting Remington Core Lokts. 300 SAUM and its felt recoil is considerably less than that of the 300 win mag or 300 weatherby mag, and is matches closely to the trajectory of the 300 win mag. Weth...Hell on deer! This case is used for the 257, 270, and 7mm wby mags. The UM needs a better bullet for a real comparison. However, I don't care for the weight of the rifles I need them in for me to handle the recoil. With my pet loads, it has shot in the .1's at 100 yards many upon many of times. 3,153 Posts #10 • Feb 28, 2009. grits and gravy said: Get a 300 … Thecase is a rimless bottleneck with a large rifle magnum primer. The performance difference is only a little, but almost across the board it is biased in favor of the Weatherby. The Wby has to have the extra headspace because of the high pressures generated. Hornady .300 PRC (left) and .300 RUM.300 Remington Ultra Mag vs. Hornady .300 PRC. I opted to go for the laminated version to help soak up the recoil of the 300 RUM. Go. However, the.300 Ultra Mag also has a lot more recoil than the.300 Win Mag. Bulk Ammunition on sale, including 300 Weatherby Mag Rifle Rounds. Its not pretty. My uncle has several Rem 700's in 30-06 and 300 Win Mags. We all go out to shoot at a range north of Byers Colorado which goes all the way out to 1000 yards. Next Last. I think the ultra's one big problem is recoil. With brake 6or 7 rnds in a half hour is about all I can take.Might sale it for right price!!! It reaches 3,250 fps with a 180-grain bullet and a 26-inch barrel. Next Last. The Weatherby uses a Kreiger button rifled barrel which is a good barrel. The 300 Wby will outshoot the Untramag any day of the week. Nothing shoots better in my house than these Remingtons. This time, brothers Evan and Jerry bring out the big guns. It, too, can digest a healthy amount of powder, and like most .300s it’s capable of excellent … I have a 300 Wby, and a friend of mine has a 300 Ultramag while yet another friend has a 300 Win mag. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So why does Wby do it and Remington doesn't. Its inherent long-range accuracy due to the advantageous bullet weight makes it a valued purchase. I found that the Wby doesn't seem to care which bullets I use. The ballistic performances based offfive grain types for velocity are 3,456 ft/s (150 gr), 3,326 ft/s (168 gr), 3,… You may also want to consider some of the the short mags. Kick is a little much for some people but I have a break on mine so its actually fun to shoot. For decades Remington was satisfied with its 6.5mm Rem. It is an “improved” .300 H&H with full-length (2.825-inch) case, body taper removed to increase powder capacity, and the signature Weatherby “double-Venturi” shoulder. I have a Rem. The Weatherby and ultra mag ballistics are definitely superior to the .300 win mag, but … Fact is, any of them will work fine out to 700 yards. I have shot 3 shot groups at 800 yards of 3.5" and 4" with the 150g CT B-tip and 1.5" 3 shot group at 525 yards with the 200g Accubond. I just looked at the case drawings in the Hogdon, Speer, AA, and Hornaday manuals. 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