The Cooper Model 52C Custom Classic is available in .280 Ackley Improved. Minuteman. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last. Center fire competitions are held at 300, 600 and 1000 yards. Competitive bench rest shooters, F-Class Target shooters and military snipers can perform out to 1,000 yards and beyond, while specialized setups with shooting benches, wind socks, etc. Shoots .213" @ 100, 2.9" @ 926. 280 Ackley Improved Rifle Cartridge. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). For propellants, RL19 or 4350 will usually give very good results. May 6, 2010 #6 Re: 284 Win -vs- 280 Rem If you got the stuff. My main question is, does the .300 WSM recoil similar to the .30/06 or closer to the .300 Win Mag? I am required to shoot over 1000 rifle rounds a year and keep MOA accuracy, so recoil flinching wont be a problem. Post Reply. It is quite easy to see that the 7mm Remington Magnum case is … Then consulted the calculator for 1000 yards. Dec 14, 2016 #3 H4831 is what I used with 140 gr. shooterscalculator.com free. The 160 gr AB at 3000 fps is plenty for elk. I've looked 6.5x55 swede and it wasnt appealing. Currently the 6mm BR and 6mm Dasher are the most popular in the … I would not hesitate to use either cartridge for taking any hoofed game in North America. Hornady also loads for the .280 AI in the Precision Hunter, long-range-friendly line. more energy than the .280 Remington and about 150 ft.-lbs. Continue with Google. Members Profile. Link to post Share on other sites. and a flatter trajectory than the 30-06, pretty good company for a big game cartridge. They can be suited to lower powder use for varmint hunting, or custom fit on a 26 inch barrel for maximum velocity in hunting medium sized game. 175 grains, 2725 fps, .672 BC. I think it's the best diameter bullet for 90% of what we do as hunters. Drop at 1000: 202 inches. Load Data . Reactions: hdxr750. bullet, after 100 yards the 280 does deliver a bit more energy, does drift a little less in the wind, and after 400 yards does start to show just a smidgeon less drop. The 300 Winchester Magnum was once popular as was the .30-338 Weatherby. Top . The chart below compares how much a 10 mile per hour crosswind impacts those same .270 Winchester, .280 Remington, .280 AI, and 7mm Remington Magnum loads out to 500 yards. At 300 yards, the .280 AI with a 140-grainer delivers about 150 ft.-lbs. However, lets assume that you are shooting a 280 AI with a 180 Hybrid at 2900. or sign up with email About this Discussion . Shot a speed goat this fall in WY at 338 yds with the 140 gr AB at 3150 fps. 600 / 1000 Yard Benchrest; 7mm RSAUM as a 1000yd gun; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. It has the least recoil, reaches far beyond any range I’d care to shoot, and ammunition is available in any gun shop around the globe. Nosler and Hornady load both 7mm Remington Magnum and .280 Ackley ammunition; looking at their data you’ll see a difference of 90 to 100 fps between the two, with the belted 7mm Magnum giving the higher velocities (with a 162-grain Hornady ELD-X, the 7mm Mag. It takes the 180g Hybrid only 300 yards to be better than the 140g bullet (1.3 vs 1.4 MOA). The 280 AI is pretty much a 7 Saum. H4831SC is a known performer with the 280AI and the 7 SAUM. Energy: 1206 ft-lbs. Now you know why Matt has a 40-power scope. 284 is a GREAT caliber. Capable of sending a 160-grain Nosler AccuBond downrange at roughly 2,800 fps, the .280 AI is about 100 fps faster than the standard .280, and just shy of the 7mm Mag. PX Member. Jul 21, 2008 1,263 3 43 Elkton,Florida,USA. Really makes me appreciate the high BC of those ELD-X's. Join the discussion. Drift at 1000: 63 inches. I’ve been shooting a short action rifle in 308 and have fell in love with Lapua brass. rifle looney . The most … The smaller calibers have the advantage of lower recoil. Other bullet weights stack up about the same. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. If so, we suggest the following procedure: Start with standard .280 Remington cases. Select a light load of a relatively fast powder (IMR4895 is great) from the standard .280 Remington data. I would … They are ballistically equal. First shot, center hit. Once get a load and bullet that works will likely stick with it forever. Reply. Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:47 am . Abbreviated Name: 280 Ack Imp. I'm a big 7mm fan. I'm running 58.5 grains of H4831SC in my 7 SAUM, with the 162 ELDX, and have AWESOME results. Go for it !!!! PX … Test Barrel (24") Muzzle. Those are only 100 ft. lbs. Also, I question whether shooting at animals 1000 yards away is a wise thing. The 280 AI is an awesome round. Add to Buddy List. in terms of performance. The 280 AI gives you heavier bullet options than the .270 Win. Top . Joined Mar 27, 2017 Messages 513 Location North Carolina. Because the .280 can generate impressive velocities and still maintain good accuracy, it is one of our primary cartridges for 7mm production testing. it hasn't the bullet weight of the .30 cal', nor quite the velocity of the .270. it fits very well in the middle, however. H4831 SC seems to be the go to powder with the 280 AI. Quote rifle looney. Already own bolt action 308, 223, 243, 300 wsm and ARs in 6.5 Creedmoore 300 bo and 223. If I get drawn, I plan on taking the 280 AI loaded up with eithrt the 140 gr AB or BT. 1/10 Mil at 1000 yards is 3.6”, and we are still fire forming brass! behind the .280 AI/Accubond combo at 500 yards, with probably 2/3 the recoil. Looking for a caliber that's not a barrel burner has easy to find brass but is accurate and good to 1000 on game. It is a favorite among mountain hunters, particular when elk, deer, sheep or goats challenge shooters with longer shots. For all-around hunting use for deer-sized game, I prefer 140-grain premium bullets like the Barnes TSX at 3,000 fps, which I can use without holding over or dialing scopes until I get to just over 300 yards. The ballistics are very similar. bullets . Report … Find Members Posts. Not sure about the second rifle, maybe the 338 RUM with 300 gr AB's. .280 Remington. less than the 7mm Remington Magnum. mdesign Gunny Sergeant. 280 Ackley Improved Load Data; 7mm Winchester Short Magnum Load Data; 7mm Remington Magnum Load Data; 7mm Weatherby Magnum Load Data; 7mm Shooting Times Westerner (STW) Load Data; 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data; 28 Nosler Load Data; 300 AAC Blackout Load Data; 30-30 Winchester Load Data; 30/40 Krag Load Data ; 308 Marlin Express Load Data; 300 Savage Load … 4 Replies 4 Participants Last post: Hypo Oct 9, 2016. Not looking to shoot 1000 yards. Sweetening the deal even more, Ackley designed the cartridge … Jan 14, 2017 #2 … 250 yard zero gives me 2.4" high (max rise) at 165 yards, 2.4" low @ 300 yards. The .280 factory loads can be used on medium sized game up to 250 yards before a noticeable drop in wound penetration occurs. So do I stick with the old 30-06 or 06 AI, go 280 AI or is the better option. They like a lot of jump too. There was not even a tenth Mil variation. yet the .280 AI produced less recoil and muzzle blast and offered space for an additional round in the magazine. Available as component bullets or in factory loaded Precision Hunter ammunition. Hornady's Joe Theilen shoots one in 1,000-yard benchrest competition with outstanding success. JD338 _____ Speed sells but Accuracy kills. Optics Master Joined: November/21/2008 Status: Offline Points: 2553 Post Options. Continue with Facebook. They both go trans-sonic at about 1800 yards, your windage at 1800 yards is the same for both. Last year I built up a 280 AI for F-class using the original dimensions not the current SAAMI. Generally, the 6mm to 338’s is the preferred choice. I shoot the 162 ELD Hornady match out of mine . Hand loading .280 brass can reach 3,100 ft/s (140 gr), 3,000 ft/s (150 gr). Try loading them like .030" off the lands. The 6.5x284 takes less elevation … Drop at 1000 yards, 180s-24.2 MOA, 140s-20.9 MOA Drift at 1000 yards, 180s-5.3 MOA, 140s-6.2 Winds drift is what wins competitions and is the hardest environmental to adjust for when shooting BR/Fclass. 175 grains, 2875 fps, .672 BC. I will be using non-lead bullets only, so I figure 140-150 grains for the .280AI and 150-180s for the .300WSM. I use Lapua 30-06 brass, neck down and fireform instead of using Rem 280 brass and fireform or 280 AI brass that is available to SAAMI specs. Reactions: hdxr750. Forced to pick a magnum from this test, I’d stick with the ever popular 7mm Rem. Great care has been given by Hornady engineers to develop superior, match­-accurate hunting loads that allow the ELD­-X ® bullet to achieve its maximum ballistic potential. alleycat. I was spotting for Bill, and asked him to maintain the same hold, and fire two more rounds for a thousand yard group. So similar, in fact that the windage at 1000 yards is the same. TECHNICAL INFORMATION: While Nosler offers pre-formed 280 Ackley brass, you may want to form your own. Mag. Also allows enough for refined holds out to 1000 easily. I don't want to be under gunned in Fotis's antelope camp. Maybe I am stubborn but I so not build a competition gun unless I can start with Lapua brass in it. My .280 load is Berger 7mm 180VLD 56gr RE22 @ 2765.That gets me 28MOA Elevation and 6MOA for a FV wind at 1000 Yards. Dec 14, 2016 #4 I have a friend of mine that shoots the .280A.I.at 1000 yards. I’ve almost been talked into going to a long action for a new rifle build and the caliber that keeps coming up is 280 AI. Although the 280 Remington was derived from the .30-06 case, it has a slightly different shoulder location and will not chamber in either .30-06 or 270 Winchester rifles. Loaded with a premium .284-diameter match projectile, such as Barnes Bullets's 171-grain Match Burner or Hornady's 162-grain A-Max, it comfortably gets the job done to 1,200 yards. Nosler is factory producing two offerings in their Custom Line of ammunition. Yep those targets (upper right) are 1000 yards away. 280 AI is only around 69-70 uncompressed. 3300 fps Hammer for 1000 Yards Though Matt's Ackley has harvested its share of varmints, the gun was built with 1000-yard benchrest competition in mind. One of Parker Otto Ackley's first cartridges of the 1940s was the 7mm-06 Improved. The .280 Ackley Goes Mainstream . Gold $$ Contributor. At left is the firing line at Thunder Valley, Ohio. Mag. A light 2700 fps load will still take 950 foot pounds to 1000 yards with the 180 Berger VLD and make 1450 supersonic. But also notice that, due to its slightly higher B.C. Jan 2, 2019 #12 DangerRanger Senior Member. J. JRWALLSIII Gunny Sergeant. Here are the trajectory figures, based on a 200 yard zero: Muzzle: -1.5 inches; 100 yards: +1.2 inches; 200 yards: +/- 0 inches; 300 yards: -5.5 inches; 400 yards: -15.8 inches; To take advantage of the cartridge's MPBR (+/- 3"), sight-in the .28 Nosler 160 grain factory load to hit 2.39 inches high at 100 yards. As you can see, even though they have a very similar trajectory with both light and heavy for caliber bullets, the .280 Remington has a clear advantage over the .270 Winchester in terms of wind drift. 6.5X284 takes less elevation … also, i ’ ve been shooting a AI! Information: While Nosler offers pre-formed 280 Ackley brass, you may to. My 7 SAUM the 160 gr AB at 3000 fps is plenty elk. 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